Oxnard Hamster

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  Parents Implanting GPS Tracking Devices In Their Kids' Cellphones

  by SYN in

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  very disturbing indeed!

  what does jwd think of this new trend?

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  Oxnard Hamster

  When I first saw this topic, I thought it was absolutely ludicrous, but I think Yerusaliym makes a good point. I think we are so wrapped up in our notion of freedom that we take it way too far sometimes. Granted, a teenager should have some freedom and privacy, but ultimately, he or she is still living under his or her parents roof. That means the parents are paying for their teen's clothes, food, etc. etc.

  Sort of off the subject, but I don't know how many people I've talked to who live at home who think they are independent just because they have a part time job. Um, it doesn't work that way people. Anybody can live at home and hold a part time job, where your parents are still paying for housing, the biggest expense, food, utilities, etc. I think people have taken this notion of independence way out of hand. I think we're so spoiled with it that we think these freedoms are inherent, but they actually have to be earned.
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  The Society is gonna let you off your homework kids!

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. family

  from the current (uk) edition of 'our kingdom ministry'.

  take a close look at paragraph 4. am i the only one who can see the old pattern of the 1980's re-emerging?

  i had thought that the watchtower had begun to take a more reasonable approach to the secular education of it's members children yet here they are again in 2004 willing to jeopardise the education these young people receive for the sake of indoctrination and control.. .

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  You have got to be kidding me. What happened to "render unto Caeser's what is Caeser's, and render unto God's what is God's?"

  Besides, is it really that vital to go to umpteen jillion meetings every week? Would it really kill a kid to miss one once in awhile to finish something as important as homework?
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  Were we different?

  by Fe2O3Girl in

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  2. friends

  when we reminisce about our lives as jws, we keep coming back to some themes.

  it seems like most of us have had some or all of these experiences:.

  faking field service time reports.

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  Oxnard Hamster

  I agree with Sirona. I think a lot of JWs fall into at least one, probably more, of those categories. After all, we are only human. Those of us who have left had the courage to stand up for our own convictions. However, I believe there are lots of JWs, especially young ones, who want to leave but are trapped for one reason or another.
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  Civilian Encountered the Damage of JW Occult

  by Forever_classy in

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  2. friends

  civilian encountered the damage of jw occult

  i have to admit that i came out of a spiritually abusive 20 year long marriage and never once did it compare to the damage that jw religion did to my past boyfriend.

  the lies and fear that was feed into this man as a child messed him up royal!.

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  Oxnard Hamster

  I never realized they would stoop so low as to condone lying to everyone except the JW organization. I also didn't realize how they encouraged members to take advantage of other people. On the other hand, I guess they do that to a certain extent in their field service activities; they impose themselves on people who are too nice to say "go away."
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  The "Faithful Slave" is Nonsense, Lurkers!

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "who really is the faithful and discreet slave"?.

  the watchtower has taken a simple scripture and twisted it into a convoluted mess to support their cult.. jesus was telling individuals to examine themselves, by asking "who really is the faithful and discreet slave?".

  by asking the question that way, he was not telling them to exalt themselves with the self appointed judgement,.

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  Excellent work metatron.

  So, are only 8000 mostly elderly geezers ( probably just a handful) the ONLY FAITHFUL

  AND DISCREET PEOPLE ON EARTH?? Are all others - like members of the "great crowd" - really unfaithful and foolish?

  But of course. After all, only baptized JWs are any good. Everyone else is evil, selfish, promiscuous, and a bunch of no-good-dirty-rotten sons of a gun. Right? Isn't that how the typical dub thinks?

  In other words, dubs have many misconceptions when it comes to generalizing people. They tend to put people in black and white groups, but it doesn't work that way.
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  Social Skills 101 for Newbies

  by codeblue in

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  pettygrudger and i jokingly chatted about writing a book about this subject...maybe just a "thread" could be of help to newbies that are having problems in learning how to associate beyond jw's.. any suggestions for this new topic?.

  codeblue

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  Chapter 37: Forget about the ranking system. (Unbaptized, publisher, pioneer, etc.)

  Chapter 38: The world isn't so bad after all.

  Chapter 39: The unfaithful and not so discreet slave.

  Chapter 40: You don't need a bunch of old guys in New York telling you what to do.
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  What about birthdays do JWs forbid?

  by imzadi in

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  2. beliefs

  some recent threads on christmas celebrations got me to thinking about birthdays.

  do jws forbid any aknowlegement of birthdays at all, or just the trappings of birthdays, such as cake, gifts and singing happy birthday?

  what specifically is forbidden and what is ok?

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  Baby worship? LOL! Funny how beliefs that used to seem so right when we were in the borg now seem so laughably absurd.
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  Common Sense Defies The Society

  by shamus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how can you explain to a person that "god is love" then explain disfellowshipping to them, even though the person who is the "prodigal son" is forgiven instantly?

  witnesses say that this is just an illustration.. they forgot to tell you that all they're teachings are from illustrations that jesus used.

  they use double speak in this regard.

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  Oxnard Hamster

  Yeah, we're glad to have you joining us Maca. I noticed a bunch of subtleties about the JWs that didn't seem quite right, but I never could put my finger on them.

  I guess that ticked me off the most is their pompous attitude that they are so much better than the rest of the world. That may be true in some regards, but a true Christian should be humble about it, not brag about it every meeting.
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  Who here left the "truth" because.....

  by freedom96 in

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  who here was an active witness, and decided to snoop around on a site like this, and left because of the information they found out on the net?

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  Oxnard Hamster

  Hello freedom. I would like to say I did my research and left because of some shocking discovering, but alas, my reasons were more base than that. Actually, I did have some lingering doubts for a long time, and did conduct a little bit of research over the net, but that's not the reason I left.

  I left primarily because I noticed this vibe that JWs think they are so much better than everybody else. As an unbaptized regular, I eventually fell for a girl who is both an elder's daughter and a regular pioneer. I knew I could never ask her out, because I would never be good enough for her in the eyes of the JWs. That brings me to another point. I was also bothered by their ranking system. They have unbaptized regulars, who have significantly fewer privelages than official JWs. Even among baptized JWs, they have a caste system. Pioneers are announced every week, and applauded by the congregation. Only the annoited 144,000 may partake of the communion confusion. Stuff of that nature turned me off and I eventually made my escape.
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  Is the rank and file aware of the serious dilema the WTS is facing?

  by fearnotruth22 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the rank and file fears "apostates" hence jws will not accpet any evidence or arguments from succh like ones.

  the mind set automatically rejects any charges against the wts without examining facts obejectivle because the wts cannot be wrong.by definition jws view the wts as god's agency, so it cannot be wrong and even if it is wrong, it is for a reason that god is allowing it and it is god's arrangement and not the business of the rank and file to judge for themselves on that but,to leave it in j's hand and in time it will be taken care of.

  in law that is called a catch all, which is sometimes the power that a judge is empowered with by the state to use his discretion and do whatever the hell he wants, pardon the phrase.. it is true that the wts has opoosers that distort facts and trump up charges in order to discredit the wts, but false accustaions against thewts do not camcel out real evidence that challenges the wt and above and beyond wt teachings is the evidence that puts a differebnt spin on and shows another perspective of the bible, and the concept of god affecting in peoples lives.

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  Oxnard Hamster

  There are different levels until one is to totally out of the box. El blanko seems to be snapping out of it. No wonder he is on this board His expressed views show the same jw thinking we all had at one time Jw views and feelings linger to the grave in or out of the box,

  Give me a break. So because El blanko believes in God and The Bible, his thinking is comparable to that of a dub? People who believe everything is peachy keen, and that there is no God think on a "higher level?" And people who believe the world is disintegrating think on a "lower level?" Excuse me while I vomit.

  El blanko stated something called an opinion, meaning his views are neither worth more nor less than anyone else's. Now, if we all have to agree that the world is like some big happy land to be considered a critical thinker, then we are really no better than the organization we just left. Don't fool yourselves into thinking you are any better either.